tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post8810790868750955206..comments2023-07-30T05:57:48.256-04:00Comments on Gospel of the Living Dead: Self Publishing Is A Bad IdeaKPaffenrothhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02323273575993522455noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-73110324672470621592008-02-01T23:46:00.000-05:002008-02-01T23:46:00.000-05:00All I'll say is that The Next Generation Writers' ...All I'll say is that The Next Generation Writers' way of doing things isn't the right way to go about this. I appreciate the vision (I'm pro-indy publishing), but to whine and gripe on a Myspace page isn't the way to go about it. If you want to be taken as a serious and professional indy author and/or publisher, you need to act like one. That's the starting point. That's what divides the wannabes from the got-to-bes.<BR/><BR/>And good post, Kim. By and large, self-publishing isn't a good idea. Yes, as you stated, there are exceptions. But, yeah, mostly what is churned out is why self-publishing has the stigma it does.<BR/><BR/>It's not for everyone. I personally enjoy it (though I traditionally publish short stories now and then), but have also learned that it's just plain hard. You need to really go hardcore with this stuff if you want your book to make more than just a few bucks.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, it's late and I'm off to wind down.<BR/><BR/>Later.A.P. Fuchshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09209734272369208196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-33873931930434512542008-02-01T16:30:00.000-05:002008-02-01T16:30:00.000-05:00I know it's not aimed at me, Kim ... I'm just wall...I know it's not aimed at me, Kim ... I'm just wallowing in guilt by association :) Same as with the fanfic. Oh the shame! <BR/><BR/>I stand by the headsmack request, though, should I start acting like one of *those* people. <BR/><BR/>My writing, I take seriously. My ego, not so much. Delusions of grandeur are bad, m'kay!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-32500117599582533772008-02-01T16:17:00.000-05:002008-02-01T16:17:00.000-05:00Games I don't know how it works. I'm also told tha...Games I don't know how it works. I'm also told that it's not the same as garage bands that burn their own CDs. But there again, I don't know the industry.KPaffenrothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02323273575993522455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-13066684806362203032008-02-01T14:50:00.000-05:002008-02-01T14:50:00.000-05:00I guess my POV is off a bit because most of my bac...I guess my POV is off a bit because most of my background is from the gaming industry where there are quite a few high-quality "indie" publishers.<BR/><BR/>These are usually author-owned operations where they may contract out editing and art but do most of the writing/game design on their own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-86100945053112371662008-02-01T14:29:00.000-05:002008-02-01T14:29:00.000-05:00This is usually how the argument goes, isn't it? "...This is usually how the argument goes, isn't it? <BR/><BR/>"Some self-published books are good!" (Okay. But it's still a stigma is the point.)<BR/><BR/>"Some traditionally published books are bad." (Yup, no argument there.) <BR/><BR/>But traditional publishing is designed to weed out crap (and succeeds some of the time). Self publishing is designed to maximize crap (and succeeds most of the time). Exceptions aren't going to change this.KPaffenrothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02323273575993522455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-89602612344287916692008-02-01T13:28:00.000-05:002008-02-01T13:28:00.000-05:00You make it sounds like you are stating an absolut...You make it sounds like you are stating an absolute fact.<BR/><BR/>Are you really implying that all self-published books are poorly editing and designed like crap?<BR/><BR/>Sure, I'll agree that _most_ self-published books fall into this group, but not all.<BR/><BR/>There are a few folks doing self-publishing that put some effort into design and are not drama queens/kings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-35305546401682174522008-02-01T10:53:00.000-05:002008-02-01T10:53:00.000-05:00And I should've specified: if you've done some gre...And I should've specified: if you've done some great research on Medieval beekeeping (the example used on another blog) and what to share it with other enthusiasts, then no one will make fun of your self-publishing efforts. It's not the *act* of self-publishing per se that is worthy of derision - it's the posturing as a transgressive, cutting-edge, bad-boy revolutionary that grows tiresome so quickly.KPaffenrothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02323273575993522455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-14283728464225760722008-02-01T10:44:00.000-05:002008-02-01T10:44:00.000-05:00Truer words were never said. And as far as that t...Truer words were never said. And as far as that thread on O-Dark, you could set the Benny Hill theme to it for all the lulz it's brought about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-78393083253146508482008-02-01T09:51:00.000-05:002008-02-01T09:51:00.000-05:00So the consensus is: It's crap!Good post, Dr. Paff...So the consensus is: It's crap!<BR/><BR/>Good post, Dr. Paffenroth. To the point, distilled down, and very, very true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-10346768942840641582008-02-01T07:35:00.000-05:002008-02-01T07:35:00.000-05:00Oh, Christine, please know there's nothing in the ...Oh, Christine, please know there's nothing in the post that could be directed at you. You are really coming along as a writer and I think you'll soon have the recognition and credits you deserve. <BR/><BR/>Ellen most definitely has a copy of History. I mentioned it somewhere on the Permuted board. So all your stories are up for Year's Best!KPaffenrothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02323273575993522455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37410885.post-22564835093385137912008-01-31T22:52:00.000-05:002008-01-31T22:52:00.000-05:00It is a bad idea ... and I'm trying really super-d...It is a bad idea ... and I'm trying really super-duper hard not to do it anymore ... except with the kids' books ... but those don't count ... and if ever I turn into one of those whiny entitlement queens, please smack me upside the head. <BR/><BR/>Unrelated question: do you happen to know if they're sending a HISTORY IS DEAD to Ellen Datlow? It'd be great to see some of us get a mention! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com